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and hello from philadelphia frank here

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with yet another episode of ufo news

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network

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sunday a special uh a special friday

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evening effort

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uh going into early saturday because the

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ufo report dropped today

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before i get into all that a couple of

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are a slow news week for the most part

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a couple key things did happen uh the

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was a another ambush interview from

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tmz where uh marco rubio commented on

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the forthcoming report

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and uh let's let's get the to rubio's

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comments i'll get through this uh

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preliminary stuff pretty quickly and

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we'll get to the

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uh the meat of the report such as it is

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but let's uh let's get to this uh

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the comments from marco rubio uh let's

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get to that right away let's go

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well judging from the report that came

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out uh yeah let's uh let's hope that it

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does leak

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hang on a sec here let me get to the uh

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yeah let me get to the right spot there

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yeah uh

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let's hope that it does leak because uh

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frankly uh the report was

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more than a little bit of a

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disappointment uh the other bit of news

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that that came out this week

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is the identity of the uh uh

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uap task force uh uh director

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uh that is someone named brennan

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mckernan uh he's a navy intelligence

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analyst

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so uh the report is his handiwork

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uh he was identified by politico as

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someone who

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uh was the uaptf director and he briefed

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uh congress uh not this past week but

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the week before

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he was one of the fellows involved in uh

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briefing

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uh the uh the house uh uh committee uh

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uh that uh uh on intelligence so uh that

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he did that

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so uh we know that uh this is his

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handiwork he is responsible

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uh for the report and now at the report

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it did come out

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it finally came out about uh you know

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what i was expecting

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it came out on friday uh right on time

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worked out pretty well i guess for the

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for the folks that put together the

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report that the deadline happened to

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fall at sort of a

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fortuitous time after uh biden got back

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from his overseas trips to europe

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and before the holiday so uh it's out it

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comes out on a friday uh again

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pretty fortuitous for them in terms of

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the timing and it's out

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and it's it is uh frankly it's a it's a

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disappointment uh uh what

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the senate requested was a public

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abstract executive summary and uh really

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are obviously classified and let's hope

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that uh rubio is in fact correct that

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the full report does leak

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because uh that's really what we need to

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a preliminary assessment so this is the

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that they asked for this report

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uh they've got it and it's from the

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fine fine looking cover page there i

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let's uh uh let's keep going and get to

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page one on this and uh basically

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let's see here okay the preliminary

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by the office of the director of

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makers of the challenges associated

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with characterizing the potential threat

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on uap so they're taking responsibility

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and uh basically uh that uh that's uh

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the scope of the report and the

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various forms of sensors that uh

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register uap generally operate correctly

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to jump back and forth because this

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print is way too small to read

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of the limited amount of high quality

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on unidentified aerial phenomena hampers

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ultimately recognize that a unique

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tailored reporting process was required

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uh the ua the task force concentrated

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on reports that occurred uh from 2004 to

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about 17 years that's close enough

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going in the numbers aren't exactly

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correct but they're close enough

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collection of physical evidence let's

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advanced aircraft for sure and then

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that's the bag that they're gonna be in

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otherworldly flight characteristics uh

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russia perhaps like china but

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uh natural atmospheric phenomenon uh you

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sensor and visual target i'm not sure

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uh usg or us industry

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we've been hearing that the the

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report is going to rule out any of our

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that is apparently not the case that

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foreign adversary systems of course

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not bags okay so uh a little discrepancy

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others uh they are others so and that's

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uh the uap uh clearly cl uh pose a uh

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without saying it's understood

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uh they're uh in terms of flight safety

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their fanatics about it and of course

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potential flight safety issues things

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certainly no american citizens

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should be uh losing any sleepover but uh

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it it's in there so uh it is brought up

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the safety concerns primarily center on

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importance of that well you know i mean

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this sort of thing done

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and this is where we are with that right

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now so uh

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some statements of the obvious uh some

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interesting uh

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allusions to uh uh unusual flight

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characteristics

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not a whole lot more than that uh at

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least up to page two

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on page three we start to get into some

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numbers here

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available reporting largely inconclusive

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limited data

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leaves most uap unexplained so

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limited data and inconsistency in

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reporting are key challenges

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uh well i can understand that there's

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some inconsistency

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in the reporting and uh limited data

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well

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you know honestly uh the uh the uh i'm

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not uh so sure that uh

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there there's al all that uh a larger

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number of uh

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et ufos that the number is probably not

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all that small

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or not all that large but uh what you do

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is you have a larger pile when you go

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back over time it that builds up over

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time

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uh how many how many of these cases are

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really uh e.t ufos uh you know who knows

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uh one a month uh

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maybe two a month uh can't say for sure

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we don't know

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uh because uh what the limited data they

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have they're not sharing so

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there's no way for us to uh determine

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that uh you know all i can say is uh

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yeah it's got to be uh uh somewhere

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between

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uh on the uh the bottom end enough for

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them to start paying attention

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and on the top end it can't not enough

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for them to have

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uh really made a uh a high priority of

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this

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uh going out from way back when so uh

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the air force uh subsequent let's see uh

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maybe let's see uh no uh standardized

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reporting mechanism existed

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until the navy established one in march

341
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2019 and that that is technically true

342
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uh a lot of times uh what you would have

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with the uh unusual cases uh

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uh the bad people would just uh uh

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file op rep three reports so we've

346
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talked about that at some length uh

347
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uh kevin day uh from the nimitz case

348
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said he was at least considering

349
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uh filing an op rep 3 report never did

350
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uh

351
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some sometimes these opera iii reports

352
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have been foiled out

353
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uh paul dean is uh uh known for doing

354
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that kind of thing

355
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and uh he's found he's developed some

356
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interesting cases as a result of uh

357
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looking at op rep three reports but

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again not standardized so uh that

359
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that is uh uh correct although you know

360
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the reports do still get filed

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uh the air force subsequently adopted

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the uh a mechanism in

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november 2020 but it remains limited to

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uh

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us government reporting i'm not sure

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exactly

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what that means uh

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okay so they i'm not sure what that

369
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means actually it's a little bit the

370
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language is a little vague there

371
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and uh the the task force regularly

372
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heard anecdotally

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during its research about other

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observations that occurred

375
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but which were never captured in formal

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or informal uh reporting by those

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observers

378
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so yeah i'm sure that's the case as well

379
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that people just

380
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just didn't file a report there they saw

381
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something they uh

382
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captured something on some remote

383
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sensing gear that

384
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they were monitoring and they just never

385
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filed a report

386
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after carefully considering this

387
00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:15,440
information the task force focused

388
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on reports that involved uap largely

389
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witnessed firsthand by military aviators

390
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and that were collected from systems we

391
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considered to be reliable

392
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these reports describe incidents that

393
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occurred between 04 and 21

394
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would the majority coming in the last

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two years

396
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as the new reporting mechanism became

397
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better known to the aviation community

398
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we're able to identify one report

399
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reported uap with high confidence in

400
00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,279
that case

401
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we identified the object as a large

402
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deflating

403
00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:50,160
unexplained

404
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so we've got 144 cases and most of them

405
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within the last two years

406
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144 of them originated with government

407
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sources

408
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of these 80 reports involved observation

409
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with multiple sensors

410
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most reports described uap as objects

411
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that interrupted

412
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pre-planned training or other military

413
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activity

414
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and then the collection challenged uh

415
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socio-cultural stigmas and

416
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uh sensor limitations remained obstacles

417
00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,880
and collecting data on uap

418
00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:24,480
well i can understand the first i'm not

419
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sure what the the sensor

420
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:28,000
limitations i mean hey if you capture it

421
00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,759
you capture it if you don't you don't

422
00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:31,680
then you've got the sensor information

423
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so you know

424
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what uh what uh what are they asking for

425
00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:36,320
here uh you know

426
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sensors that can do a lot more than the

427
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current

428
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centers that they've already spent a ton

429
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of money on although some

430
00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:46,160
technical challenges such as how to

431
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:48,240
appropriately filter out radar clutter

432
00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:48,880
to

433
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ensure a safety of flight for military

434
00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:52,399
and civilian traffic

435
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:55,040
uh civilian aircraft are long-standing

436
00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:56,880
as the aviation community

437
00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:59,839
while others are unique to uh uap

438
00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,800
problem set

439
00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:02,720
uh narratives from aviators in the

440
00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:04,079
operational community

441
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:06,880
uh describe a disparagement uh okay

442
00:16:09,829 --> 00:16:07,600
sensors

443
00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:09,839
mounted on military platforms are

444
00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:12,240
typically designed to fulfill specific

445
00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:12,959
missions

446
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:14,639
as a result those sensors are not

447
00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:17,440
generally suited for identifying uap

448
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:21,120
well i think the key is really that

449
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,959
you're identifying that something is

450
00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:24,399
there uh that

451
00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:26,399
that's an intelligently controlled

452
00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:28,639
vehicle and that it's flying and

453
00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:32,240
you know it'd be nice to uh be able to

454
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:35,040
identify the uh the et spaceship is

455
00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:36,000
coming from

456
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:38,880
alpha centauri or the the sagittarius

457
00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,480
system or something like that

458
00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:42,720
but uh you know the fact that you're

459
00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:43,519
getting it

460
00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:45,680
on sensor data and maybe also at the

461
00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,720
same time

462
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:48,480
having somebody see something that in

463
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:50,000
and of itself is significant

464
00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:52,240
okay and yeah you might not be able to

465
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:54,480
specifically identify those but

466
00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,959
it's certainly worth cataloging them uh

467
00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:59,040
and then set your vantage points and the

468
00:17:01,670 --> 00:17:00,959
number of sensors concurrently observing

469
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:01,680
an object

470
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:04,720
play substantial roles as a in

471
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:06,880
distinguishing uap from known objects

472
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,240
and determining whether a

473
00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:10,240
uap demonstrates breakthrough

474
00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:11,360
capabilities

475
00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:13,120
optical sensors have the benefit of

476
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:14,880
providing some insight into relative

477
00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:15,600
size

478
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:17,919
shape and structure and also flight

479
00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,520
characteristics if you can figure out

480
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:21,280
the size the shape and the structure or

481
00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:21,760
something

482
00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:23,839
uh you can figure out how fast it's

483
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:24,799
going and uh

484
00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:27,520
uh you know what its rate of climb is

485
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:28,960
and things like that uh

486
00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:31,760
okay and uh uh radio frequency sensors

487
00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:32,720
uh provide

488
00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:35,039
more accuracy of the more accurate

489
00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:35,840
velocity

490
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,880
and range information so okay so there's

491
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:40,240
that

492
00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:55,110
some potential patterns do emerge

493
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,440
although there was a wide variability in

494
00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:59,120
the reports in the data set

495
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:01,600
is currently too limited to allow for

496
00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:02,799
detailed trends or

497
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:05,520
pattern analysis there was some

498
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:06,960
clustering of uap

499
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:10,000
observations regarding shape size and

500
00:18:13,909 --> 00:18:11,600
that particularly propulsion

501
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:13,919
uap sightings also tended to cluster

502
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around us

503
00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:16,799
training and testing grounds but we

504
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,000
assess that

505
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:20,880
this may result from a collection bias

506
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:22,880
as a result of focused attention greater

507
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number of

508
00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:26,160
uh latest generation sensors operating

509
00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:27,200
in these areas

510
00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:30,880
and uh so on and so forth uh basically

511
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uh they're saying there's a collection

512
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:34,640
bias uh because uh you know that's where

513
00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:36,960
we have our sensors well yeah obviously

514
00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:40,160
so uh yeah uh i don't know what to say

515
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:42,320
about that that's sort of uh

516
00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:45,600
you know uh yeah yeah you're going to

517
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,200
collect sensor data where you have

518
00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:48,880
sensors okay that seems to be what it's

519
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,440
saying and

520
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,919
there may be a bias in that if you want

521
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to study

522
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:55,440
uh ufos where you don't have sensors

523
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,160
okay

524
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,480
uh that that doesn't make a whole lot of

525
00:19:02,789 --> 00:18:59,919
sense to me if it does to you

526
00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,799
let me know uh in 18 incidents uh uh

527
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:05,120
described in 11 reports observers

528
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,600
reported

529
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:07,919
unusual uap pattern movements or

530
00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:09,200
movement patterns or flight

531
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,320
characteristics

532
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,880
some uap appeared to remain stationary

533
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,000
and winds aloft

534
00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:16,720
move against the wind maneuver abruptly

535
00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,440
or

536
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,080
move at considerable speed without the

537
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:22,000
discernible means of propulsion

538
00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:24,000
in a small number of cases military

539
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:25,919
aircraft systems processed radio

540
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:27,280
frequency energy

541
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:30,400
uh associated with uap sightings

542
00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:34,160
uh ua uh task force holds a small amount

543
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,039
of data

544
00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:38,240
that appear to show uap demonstrating

545
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:40,720
acceleration or a degree of signature

546
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:41,679
management

547
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:44,720
uh by that i would assume and again it

548
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:46,000
doesn't say i mean

549
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:47,919
it's a public-facing report about some

550
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:49,120
basic stuff here

551
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:50,720
and it should say it i shouldn't have to

552
00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,720
guess what this stuff means

553
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:55,200
demonstrating acceleration or a degree

554
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:56,799
of signature management

555
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:59,520
does that mean that it accelerates and

556
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:01,039
breaks the sound barrier but doesn't

557
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,559
leave a sonic boom

558
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,559
that sounds like that's what that means

559
00:20:09,149 --> 00:20:06,159
but it doesn't say it i mean

560
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:09,159
you know a lot of this is a very

561
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:10,400
dissatisfactory

562
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,840
uh additional you know you know this

563
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,840
this is supposedly a report it should

564
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:17,520
clear this stuff up not raise more

565
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,720
questions like what

566
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,720
what are you even talking about here

567
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:22,480
additional rigorous analysis was

568
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,200
necessary

569
00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:25,200
uh by multiple teams or groups of

570
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:26,799
technical experts to determine the

571
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,880
nature and validity of these data

572
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,640
we are conducting further analysis

573
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,960
determine to determine if breakthrough

574
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,720
technologies were demonstrated

575
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,240
so yeah that's what i think they're

576
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:38,000
talking about there and

577
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,440
they can't figure out how something

578
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,120
could be hovering and then

579
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:43,520
excuse me a hitting you know maybe mach

580
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,480
2 uh

581
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,400
in a very short order and not leaving

582
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:48,080
sonic booms behind so

583
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,320
apparently there are cases like that but

584
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,320
again it's not clear it seems pretty

585
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,600
simple and straightforward

586
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:55,440
that you should be able to say it but

587
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:56,880
they're not saying it

588
00:21:01,510 --> 00:21:00,240
uh uap documented in this limited data

589
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:01,520
set demonstrated an

590
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:04,480
array of aerial behaviors reinforcing

591
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:06,400
the possibility there are multiple types

592
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,360
of uap

593
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:09,520
uh requiring different explanations but

594
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,640
sure you know

595
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,559
some of them are the recon types i'm

596
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:14,240
sure that the uh the

597
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:17,440
the earth made uh reconnaissance drones

598
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,400
and balloons and some of them are e.t

599
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,559
so our analysis of the data supports the

600
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:23,840
construct that if and when

601
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,240
individual uap incidents are resolved

602
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,559
they will fall into one of five

603
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:30,320
categories and uh we already uh we

604
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:31,840
already went through all that

605
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:35,360
and uh this goes into more detail

606
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,760
about them so this is just basically a

607
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:39,200
reiteration of uh

608
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:42,080
uh what was uh already outlined earlier

609
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,360
so again

610
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:47,679
they're repeating themselves which is

611
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:56,149
and let's go to this page the other of

612
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,280
course uh

613
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:59,200
although most of the upp described in

614
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:00,640
our data set probably remain

615
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:02,799
unidentified due to limited data or

616
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,640
challenges and collecting data

617
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,880
we may require additional scientific

618
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:08,080
knowledge to select

619
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,559
uh to successfully collect on analyze

620
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,480
and characterize some of them

621
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:14,240
we would group such objects in this

622
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:15,760
category pending

623
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,240
uh scientific advances that allowed us

624
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:20,320
to better understand them

625
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,799
the task force intends to focus

626
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:24,240
additional analysis

627
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,640
on the small number of cases when a uap

628
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,600
dis uh

629
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,600
appeared to display unusual flight

630
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:32,000
characteristics or signature management

631
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,760
so uh that uh that's what we're talking

632
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,200
about here the you know the

633
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,679
the high speeds uh the 90 degree turns

634
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,120
at high speeds

635
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:41,679
yeah the quick acceleration that type of

636
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,039
thing i think those are

637
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,760
those are the et ufos that that we're

638
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:47,039
really interested in

639
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:50,000
okay uh uap threatened flight safety and

640
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:51,919
possibly national security

641
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:54,799
yeah i certainly don't argue about that

642
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:55,280
uh

643
00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:59,520
yeah they might

644
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,840
uh it might be a national security risk

645
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,039
but the et's

646
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:05,360
you know the that's uh they're not they

647
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:06,159
don't they don't

648
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,159
they're they're not a threat to us uh

649
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:11,200
ongoing uh airspace concerns uap

650
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:14,960
uh tf has 11 reports of uh documented

651
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:17,280
instances in which pilots reported near

652
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:18,640
misses with uap

653
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,320
uh that the the that i'd like to know

654
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:24,000
more about those kind of cases so i'm

655
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:24,880
not sure

656
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:29,440
ufos i think uh

657
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:32,559
uh the et ufo's probably uh keep a keep

658
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:35,760
a good distance uh those aren't uh

659
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,400
cases i don't think but hey i'd like to

660
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,400
know more but uh you know that

661
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,640
uh those details are apparently in the

662
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:44,480
classified annex and then

663
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,279
potential national security challenges

664
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,440
uh we continue to monitor for evidence

665
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,559
of such programs

666
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:52,240
given the counter intelligence challenge

667
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,279
they would pose uh particularly uh

668
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,320
uh uap have been detected near military

669
00:24:03,269 --> 00:23:59,760
facilities or by uh

670
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:03,279
uh or by aircraft carrying usgs

671
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:06,880
most sensitive sensor systems well okay

672
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,760
so we got that and then explaining uap

673
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:11,679
will require analytic

674
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,400
collection and resource investment so

675
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:15,840
here's the part where they ask for the

676
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:17,440
money

677
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:19,840
basically uh in line with the provisions

678
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,679
of the senate report accompanying

679
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,520
uh this and that and the other thing a

680
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,120
broader swath of uh

681
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:28,080
usg uh personnel and technical systems

682
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:28,559
uh

683
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:32,720
the uap

684
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,000
tf's ability to employ that uh and

685
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,480
uh employed data analytics to detect

686
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,400
trends that will also improve

687
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,159
and that's uh that's basically yeah that

688
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,600
we do we need

689
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,360
we need more money that's basically what

690
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,520
they're asking for there let me get the

691
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:48,720
last page here

692
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:51,440
uh basically this is more we need more

693
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,360
money we need more resources

694
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:56,480
uh and uh we're uh we're limited uh hang

695
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,520
on a sec let me

696
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,600
get you to that last page there it is

697
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,679
for you and i've got it in front for me

698
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,200
so i can read a little better

699
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:06,400
and uh expand uh the collection of uh

700
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,840
data and uh oh uh oh uh uh here's one

701
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:12,240
interesting thing here that uh they're

702
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,000
also is currently working to acquire

703
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:16,559
additional reporting including from the

704
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,159
u.s air force

705
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:19,679
like they didn't get anything out of the

706
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:20,960
air force basically that's what they're

707
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,760
saying here

708
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,760
and has begun receiving data from the

709
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,960
faa so

710
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:26,640
you know here's this big six-month

711
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,240
report uh

712
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:30,240
requisitioned by the senate the senate

713
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,440
intelligence committee

714
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,960
and it looks like the air force didn't

715
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:34,799
do anything and it looks like

716
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:38,640
the faa is uh is uh going to cooperate

717
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:39,039
so

718
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:45,919
in the future and uh that that is

719
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,440
basically it just uh

720
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,360
a continued investment we need more

721
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,720
money we don't have anything

722
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,799
for you right now really uh we don't

723
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,559
know what it is uh we look at all these

724
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,000
cases we don't know what they are

725
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,080
we spend trillions of dollars on defense

726
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:59,840
so we have all this advanced sensors

727
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:00,640
we've got the

728
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:03,919
the best pilots in the world and uh

729
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:07,200
you know we we don't have anything for

730
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,320
you basically we don't have anything

731
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,480
concrete we don't have anything solid

732
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,919
that's basically what they're saying

733
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:14,559
here so that's it that's your

734
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,600
that's your 180 day ufo

735
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:20,000
task force report that's basically it in

736
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:21,440
summation you can read the whole thing

737
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,559
yourself and

738
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:24,559
if you see something that i didn't well

739
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:25,840
uh you know but

740
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,720
i i i do note that uh there's not a lot

741
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:30,240
of detail in there it's

742
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:32,559
not a report it's really more of a a

743
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:33,600
summary and

744
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:36,559
i was frankly i was expecting more but

745
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:36,799
it

746
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:40,480
going to go back to the senate

747
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,159
and obviously uh there's not much in the

748
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:46,159
uh the the forward-facing uh report

749
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:47,120
itself

750
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,559
and we'll see what's in the the

751
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,400
classified annex but

752
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,799
i think we'll just get more details of

753
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:53,919
uh we

754
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,080
don't know what this stuff is and it

755
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,520
could be a few different things

756
00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:00,240
and uh we need more money uh basically

757
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,520
uh that's what i think we're

758
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:03,440
we're seeing here and that is

759
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,720
unfortunate it's uh

760
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:07,039
it's clearly going to be a longer

761
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:08,240
tougher fight

762
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,159
to get information

763
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:15,200
about specific cases that might be e.t

764
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,000
ufos

765
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:18,240
that's uh that's what i'm seeing here

766
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,080
but uh the good news is uh

767
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:22,000
that uh people seem to be in uh the

768
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,520
people seem to be up for the fight

769
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,440
and uh this this doesn't seem like it's

770
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,200
gonna go away anytime soon

771
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:30,240
so uh that's good and uh later on in the

772
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:30,960
day

773
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:33,520
the uh under secretary of defense who

774
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,240
oversees

775
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,360
the uap task force and

776
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:40,000
also just by way of coincidence also

777
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:40,799
sees the

778
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,520
special access project or a special

779
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,279
access program committee

780
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,880
uh kathleen hicks issued a declaration

781
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:53,750
and finally uh late in the afternoon

782
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:56,399
after the task force report was released

783
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,679
such as it was

784
00:28:01,190 --> 00:28:00,399
uh kathleen hicks the under secretary of

785
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:01,200
defense

786
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,039
released this memorandum and uh

787
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,200
going back uh it's good to see her

788
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,480
getting involved because

789
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,720
we actually talked about her background

790
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:12,480
that of avril haynes and

791
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:16,000
uh lloyd austin the secretary of defense

792
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:19,520
avril haynes the uh director of national

793
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,399
intelligence but

794
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,720
we talked a little bit about kathleen

795
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,679
hicks's background

796
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:25,360
and it is a little bit interesting uh

797
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,120
she does have a physics degree so

798
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,440
she should be uh pretty familiar with

799
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:32,399
the uh

800
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,799
sensing data

801
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:39,279
and also has an interest in aviation

802
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:41,360
yeah she did take some pilot lessons at

803
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,880
one point in her life so

804
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,559
she has an interesting background now

805
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,399
she might she might

806
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:48,880
prove to be going forward a good ally

807
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:49,520
for us

808
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,000
looking at this ufo stuff but basically

809
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:56,799
she issued this memorandum that she's

810
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,000
directing the office

811
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,919
of the under secretary of defense for

812
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,520
intelligence and security

813
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,159
to develop a plan to formalize the

814
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:06,240
mission currently performed by the task

815
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,279
force

816
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:09,200
establish a set of procedures to

817
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,559
synchronize collection

818
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:13,679
reporting an analysis of uh data on the

819
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,559
you know

820
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:16,399
the problem set the data whatever they

821
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,840
want to call it to establish

822
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,000
recommendations for securing

823
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,480
military tests and training ranges

824
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,080
identify requirements for the

825
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:25,679
establishment operation of the new

826
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,480
activity

827
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,399
to include organizational alignment

828
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,080
resources staffing

829
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,480
required so on and so forth develop in

830
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:34,320
coordination with the principal staff

831
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,039
assistants

832
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,640
the chairman of the joint chiefs the

833
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,960
secretaries of the military departments

834
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:41,120
and the commander of the commanders of

835
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:42,640
the combatant commands

836
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,159
and with the dni and other uh relevant

837
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,399
interagency partners all members of the

838
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:50,799
department will utilize these processes

839
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,320
to ensure that the task force or uh

840
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,200
it's uh follow-on activity uh has

841
00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:59,520
reports of uap observations within

842
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:02,240
two weeks of an occurrence so uh that is

843
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:02,559
a

844
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,480
hicks

845
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:12,960
so we will see we are in a long tough

846
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:13,600
fight

847
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,720
uh we found that the air force is uh

848
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,640
not being especially cooperative we'll

849
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:20,159
see where that leads

850
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:21,679
we know that the air force has been

851
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,789
that the air force stonewalled the a-tip

852
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:30,880
program where the investigators

853
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:34,240
from that program looked to

854
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:37,120
interview pilots who had chased a ufo

855
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,520
over

856
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:39,600
texas during the stephenville case uh

857
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:41,120
back in 2008

858
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:43,039
and uh they had signed non-disclosure

859
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,039
agreements and weren't allowed to talk

860
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,080
and i don't think that that

861
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:51,120
stephenville case uh one of the cases

862
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:52,320
that are involved

863
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:55,360
in the uh the classified annex of the uh

864
00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:58,640
task force report uh my guess is uh uh

865
00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:01,279
that's not in there at all and also uh

866
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,679
we

867
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:04,000
got a first person account from pj

868
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,080
hughes who was on the nimitz uh

869
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,720
we got that right here uh during one of

870
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:10,559
our shows about the nimitz case he was

871
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,039
on

872
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:13,679
and talked about how an air force

873
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:14,320
officer

874
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:17,679
was on the nimitz collecting the sensing

875
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,159
data from the e2 hawkeye

876
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:22,640
uh spy plane that their radar plane i

877
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:23,279
should say

878
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,559
uh that had captured the uh data of the

879
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:27,440
uh the tic tac

880
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:30,320
ufo uh during that that famous incident

881
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,640
so

882
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,559
uh this uh this uh kathleen hicks she

883
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,120
could be our best ally in all this yeah

884
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:36,880
you never know it uh could be

885
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:39,360
could be interesting uh uh largely again

886
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:40,799
the the uh the report

887
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,960
uh i i've gotta call it yeah it's not a

888
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,039
report really yeah what it is is

889
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:47,200
uh what i thought it wouldn't be it was

890
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:48,480
an abstract

891
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,279
tour report basically a public abstract

892
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,120
to a classified report

893
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:54,960
that's where the the meat is uh

894
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:57,919
hopefully as marco rubio suggests

895
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,080
that the full report does leak so we

896
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:01,760
have a better idea of what we're talking

897
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,159
about

898
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,799
but that's what we've got for now uh i'm

899
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:05,600
not sure

900
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:08,080
when what the i guess i will be picking

901
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,039
up reactions

902
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,960
throughout the coming week uh to the

903
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,720
report it will be interesting but we did

904
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,720
see one reaction it's a key one it's

905
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,799
one that we really like and it's good to

906
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,320
end on a high note but

907
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,240
again what we're seeing is well going

908
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,840
forward we're going to be tracking this

909
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:22,960
stuff very carefully

910
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:25,600
uh when we know that a lot of this stuff

911
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:28,000
is uh has been tracked all along so uh

912
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:29,600
what are you gonna do it's a part of the

913
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,559
fight for the truth

914
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,480
it's not gonna be an easy one uh we're

915
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:34,240
not done yet and we're certainly not

916
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,000
done here although i am hoping i'm gonna

917
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,080
be able to take next holiday weekend off

918
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,320
but you never know there might be enough

919
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,399
for me to talk about and if i do i'm

920
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:44,080
probably gonna try to get it done

921
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:46,640
uh uh early and uh not wait until sunday

922
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:47,600
so i can

923
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:50,320
get my full uh three-day holiday weekend

924
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,159
uh celebrated properly and

925
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:54,320
not have to uh worry about doing this

926
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,360
but

927
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:57,440
i hope you enjoyed the show everybody i

928
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,480
went through everything

929
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:00,799
by all means uh read that task force

930
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:01,760
report

931
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:04,399
uh for yourself it's readily available

932
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,279
and uh

933
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,039
go through it uh maybe you see some

934
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,200
things in it that i didn't see maybe i'm

935
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:11,760
misinterpreting a few things uh i don't

936
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:12,480
know but

937
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,760
that's what i see uh and again

938
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,360
it's been an interesting day to say the

939
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:19,519
least but uh obviously i was expecting a

940
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,880
lot more from the report

941
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,320
but uh maybe we got a little bit of a

942
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:24,720
consolation prize at the end of the day

943
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,519
with uh uh the under secretary of

944
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,720
defense's hicks's

945
00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:31,120
memorandum uh related to the report

946
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:32,960
although again hey she's been in office

947
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,200
almost half a year now they've known

948
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:37,039
all this was coming it's like why do you

949
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,559
wait till the why do you wait till the

950
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:40,080
last minute i mean what do these people

951
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,960
think they are me

952
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:43,039
you know they should be on top of these

953
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,159
things after all

954
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,640
you know it's our uh uh it's our our

955
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:48,480
national defense you know it's a stake

956
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,960
here

957
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:51,120
but uh we're getting a little bit closer

958
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:52,000
we learned a little bit

959
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:54,799
more today and we learned that the air

960
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:55,279
force

961
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:58,480
wants more money

962
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,039
and they they don't have enough data and

963
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:03,600
to be honest about it i'm not sure

964
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:06,240
how much data there really is that over

965
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,600
time it builds up

966
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:10,240
but uh you know from day to day week to

967
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,359
week month to month

968
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,839
probably not that much data on the the

969
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,200
et ufos

970
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:17,599
but over a period of time it builds up

971
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,480
and of course uh

972
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,679
again no mention that uh these types of

973
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:23,760
these types of cases they don't go back

974
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:26,159
to 2004 the ufo phenomena didn't start

975
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:27,679
in 2004

976
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:31,280
as far as uh you know as as far as

977
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:33,040
the historical record goes at least in

978
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:34,639
terms of aviation

979
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,639
and goes back at least to world war ii

980
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:38,480
and then obviously picked up

981
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,599
uh back in 1947 and

982
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,679
uh we've got those kind of cases with

983
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:45,359
radar with pilot

984
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:47,919
uh sightings and so on and so forth uh

985
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,960
going back uh

986
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:51,839
that far so uh those cases aren't even

987
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:52,879
mentioned and uh

988
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,480
i wonder uh wonder if uh uh

989
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:58,240
well you wonder what they're thinking

990
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,599
about this uh so

991
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,880
uh all right well you have a good

992
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:03,359
weekend and i'm i'm about out of time

993
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:05,040
here so uh have a good weekend

994
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:07,200
and we'll talk to you again well as soon